On today’s episode, our buddy Rick is back in studio with some mushroom elixirs that he’s been adding to his morning coffee. We mix the mushroom elixirs into our cold brew coffee and try them live on the show and give you our version of a mushroom elixir review.
Highlights & Takeaways
Chaga mushrooms, Lions Mane mushrooms, Cordyceps mushrooms
Carnivorous mushrooms, Fake News, O’Doul’s
What we mentioned on during this show
Episode 76 Transcript
Brendan: Welcome to another episode of the Drips and Draughts podcast. We’ve got our good friend Rick back in studio with us today to share his latest health kick, health fad I guess. Rick, who some of you know as Doctor Von Reichstein by the way. He’s found a mushroom supplement or a mushroom elixir as it’s called that he’s been adding to his coffee in the mornings. We thought hey let’s try this. Let’s see what it’s all about. So, he brought some in. We’re going to try it live on the show today.
It just so happens that I’m a little bit under the weather today. A lot of these mushroom elixirs are different types of mushrooms that are contained in these apparently can do great things for you. I’ll have to follow up next week, let you know if I’m feeling any better tomorrow or the next couple of days. If you’re looking for links or show notes for this episode you can find those by going to dripsanddraughts.com/76.
With that let’s dive right into today’s episode with our pal Rick. Welcome back to another episode of the drips and draughts podcast. As always, I’m Brendan Hansen. Got Cary in studio today and we’re joined by rick.
Rick: Rick is back.
Brendan: He’s back. We’ve got another episode full of miss information coming up.
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We’re talking about, what would you call this? New coffee supplements today, coffee additives.
Rick: Yes. Some supplements I’ve been using in my coffee.
Brendan: Cool. We’re going to try them. We’re going to give them the test.
Rick: Then, I’m going to regurgitate a bunch of things that I heard from people that they told me about these supplements.
Brendan: Be ready to hop on Wikipedia, hop on Google. Do your own fact checking, alright? With that, let’s drop a little list.
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Brendan: Alright. That’s that. We’ve got three glasses of cold brew lined up here. We’ve got three little packets of– I’m going to let you explain what we’ve got.
Rick: The Street light?
Brendan: Yes. So usually-
Rick: Should I name off the brand? Is that okay?
Brendan: Yes. I think that’s fine.
Rick: Usually I get this product. I’ve been using this product for a couple of months now in my coffee. It’s usually a coffee supplement it comes with lions mane, quarter set mushrooms and Chaga. Usually it’s a blend and it has a little bit of powdered coffee.
Brendan: Instant coffee.
Rick: Yes, instant coffee. So, I’ll mix that in my coffee in the morning. I’m just like on fire for hours. It’s weird because it’s like I only use a little bit of the coffee. I don’t get that crash from coffee. I don’t feel it wear off. I don’t feel a crash from it. I was talking to Kerry about the other day. He asked me “Why don’t you come and talk about it?” So I’m going to talk about it.
Brendan: These are all different mush rooms?
Rick: Yes. The company that makes the product is called Four Sigmatic. I actually got it from whole foods. They had these little packets that are like $1.79. I start putting that in my coffee, really liked what I was feeling from it. The taste isn’t terrible. I wouldn’t say it tastes delicious or anything but it’s definitely like if you need something, a little more of a kick in the morning. IF you need a little bit more focus throughout the day it’s a good product to use. But, what I did because they were out of them, when I came here today. I just grabbed the ingredients that were in that.
Brendan: This is just a mush room extract or powder?
Rick: Yes. Honestly, I don’t know they make it but it works.
Brendan: But we’ll try it.
Rick: Yes. You guys want to try it? The first thing is the quarter set mushrooms. Quarter set mushrooms I have been using for a long time for energy. Somebody told me it would be good to take as an adapter-gen, going up to altitude. Because, the way that they actually discovered quarter set mushrooms was and this is one of those things that I’m going to regurgitate that I hear from somebody else and didn’t read it.
He said “This person told me that quarter set mushrooms were found on the back of these caterpillars in the Himalaya. The yaks that were eating these caterpillars — Yaks were this big goat mountain things.
[laughter]
These yaks had a lot more energy than the other yaks that were not eating these caterpillars with these spore of mushrooms growing on the back of them. Some people took them and isolated them, put them down into supplement form and found that there were really beneficial for a lot of different things. That’s the first thing that we’re going to put in there.
Brendan: That’s the red packet?
Rick: That’s the red packet, yes. Then, Chaga. Brendan do you want to—hold that up because I have no idea what Chaga is.
[laughter]
Brendan: A lot of chaga here.
Rick: I’m not a scientist.
Brendan: Chaga. Organic chaga extract. They flavor these little things with different stuff. This chaga has got peppermint extract and rose hip extract. Here we go 24 health benefits. That’s lion’s mane. 12 health benefits of the chaga mushroom, with side effects, oh.
Rick: Yes. Read those to.
Brendan: You want me to read the health benefits?
Rick: I would like to know since I’ve been taking it for two months.
[laughter]
Brendan: We’ll go through a couple of these. Reduces oxidative stress, suppresses cancer progression, that’s a good thing. It helps to protect the immune system. I think I just need to ramp up on these.
Rick: Yes. There you go.
Brendan: Being that I’m feeling a little under the weather, reduces inflammation, can improve diabetic health. Increased physical endurance, that’s probably why you take it?
Rick: Is this off of like Mary’s blog, is this off an actual legitimate website.
Brendan: This is selfhacked.com
Rick: It’s somebody’s blog?
Brendan: I think so. Some guy named Joe.
Rick: This is probably all anecdotal evidence probably, not scientific evidence but yes.
Brendan: Let’s see I could probably pull it up on Web MD.
Rick: A lot of these supplements. There’s not a lot of science out of them-
Brendan: They haven’t been tested thoroughly.
Rick: -that’s the hard thing about it. As you got to use it and see if it works.
Brendan: For you? Huh.
Rick: Yes.
Brendan: There we go, Web MD. Chaga is a fungus. It produces a woody growth called a cock which used to make medicine. People take chaga by mouth for heart disease, diabetes, stomach and intestine cancer, liver disease, parasites, stomach pain, and tuberculosis. It says “How does it work?” Chaga might stimulate the immune system and have antioxidant effects.
Rick: Chaga up.
Brendan: Chaga up. So, what we going to do, just mix these in?
Rick: Yes. Why don’t you guys because I already had a full glass of this. I feel it. I felt great.
Brendan: Then we didn’t talk about lions mane yet, the third one.
Rick: Lions mane. I’ve had this company for sigmatic. They make a coffee supplement with quarter set mush rooms and Chaga. I’ve had that. It was okay. But when I tried with the chaga, the quarter set mushrooms and the lions mane it was a market difference. I felt in lion’s mane, we were talking about this before the podcast, it’s a nootropic. Nootropic’s they’re basically they’re for your brain. They’re neuroprotection. They’re a lot of people claim that they give you a clear mind, more focus. I’ve really noticed that from the lion’s mane, like a lot.
Brendan: Wow interesting, and I.
Rick: I’m pretty skeptical about this kind of stuff too usually. There’s a lot of supplements that people take I’m like baloney. Doesn’t do anything. If it does they’re probably mixing something else in it. Lion’s mane may have adoral in it, I don’t know. That’s the feeling you get.
Brendan: Nootropic is Wikipedia; they’re also called smart drugs and cognitive enhancers. They’re drugs, supplements or other substances that improve cognitive function, particularly executive functions, memory, creativity or motivation in healthy individuals. The nootropics are real popular in the military. They’re real popular with poker players, pool players, athletes, people that need a lot of focus. A lot of these guys and gals are using.
Rick: This is the basis of that movie limitless.
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Cary: [inaudible 00:10:14] or someone.
Rick: On the blend that you get on Four Sigmatic. It actually says go limitless on the packaging.
Brendan: Interesting.
Rick: It is interesting. You really do feel quite a difference when you drink it. It takes about 20, 30 minutes for that to kick in.
Brendan: What are doing? Are we putting a little of each in here?
Rick: No pour the whole packet in.
Speaker 1: What?
Rick: Yes. I did it I just drank a whole glass of it.
Brendan: Should we just pick one?
Rick: No, all three of them.
Brendan: All three.
Rick: Yes.
Cary: You guys just try. Give us a heart attack here. [laughs]
Brendan: All right. I got my– or should I go like top down like stoplight style. These packages are red, yellow and green. All right, so the cordyceps-
Cary: I’m going to smell these too since they all have-
Brendan: I feel like I’m going to need a blender.
Rick: That has rose hips in it. Yes, be careful. May I help you? You guys are amateurs at pouring this stuff.
Cary: Doesn’t smell bad.
Rick: Doesn’t taste bad,
Brendan: Doesn’t taste bad.
Cary: It’s like a light brown powder.
Rick: It tastes much better too-
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-like Folger coffee.
Cary: Smells a little woodier or something.
Brendan: Do we have a little bullet here, magic bullet. I’d be nice, so wait this was the cordyceps? This is the one that grows my biceps?
Rick: That’s the one that grows on caterpillars.
Brendan: I used to treat coughs, bronchitis. I might actually go get some more of this.
Rick: Actually, I have people at my work that are asking me to bring it for them because I’ve given it to people at my work.
Brendan: We’re currently stirring this one. I don’t know if I’m going to be able to stir all these in.
Cary: I don’t know. It seems like it goes pretty good. It’s a super fine powder.
Rick: It dissolves eventually.
Brendan: People are going love this show, just hearing us stir. Don’t drink it yet. You change the flavor?
Cary: Not much, no.
Rick: Get some of that Lion’s Mane in there. I’m not guys. Don’t be shy.
Cary: After we get all this in here, Ricky is going to have like a jiu-jitsu class. He’s going to want to fight us all.
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Which ones Lion’s Mane? Yellow? Here we go.
Brendan: Oh so here’s a– this is on WebMD. Cordyceps is a fungus that lives on certain caterpillars in the high mountain regions of China. Supplement makers are able to get enough of the product to sell because cordyceps will reproduce in the laboratory.
Cary: This one smells a little funkier for sure.
[crosstalk]
Cary: Yes, it’s like that woody smell but it almost has like that trout power bait smell to it.
Brendan: Power bait. [laughs]
Cary: Funky power bait.
Rick: I think that, that company, Four Sigmatic, they might need to have the FDA or the DEA check that supplement, because it does do something to you. It’s not bad what it does but-
Brendan: It tastes similar to the first one.
Cary: Straight in.
Brendan: They’re all are-
Rick: I think they all have stevia in it. That’s why.
Brendan: That’s why they’re all sweet.
Cary: What else was out of-
[crosstalk]
Brendan: Peppermint extract.
Cary: I think rose hips or a star anise or anese, how do you say that?
Rick: Are you allergic to any of this stuff by the way?
Cary: No.
Rick: Okay.
Brendan: Find out.
Cary: I don’t think so. I don’t think I’m allergic to any foods.
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Cary: Stir it up [laughs] It’s getting murkier and murkier.
Brendan: I feel like I should have put this in a water bottle. I’m shaking the crap out of it.
Cary: Dude. It’s dissolving.
Brendan: Some floaters. Let me take a bite of this.
Cary: That is good cold brew by the way. Who made this?
Brendan: Kara made that one, cold brew you having.
Cary: That definitely changed the flavor. The Lion’s Mane versus that last one.
Brendan: In a bad way.
Cary: It’s not terrible but it’s not like clean coffee now
Brendan: It gives the cold brew a little something else. That’s for sure.
Cary: A little tanginess almost.
Brendan: And what’s this last one we got? Chaga?
Rick: Chaga.
Cary: Chaga has peppermint, again rose hips. They all have the same base I guess or additives.
Rick: Yes you could probably get to like– I just got these because they were in the-
Cary: I smell the peppermint in this one. It’s like much darker cocoa.
Brendan: I’m getting it all over myself.
Rick: If you were to buy like a full bottle of Lion’s Mane it can get, ooh pretty expensive. You can probably buy the ingredients separately that don’t have anything added to them, but I just figured this was the least or the most cost effective way to do it today.
Brendan: This one’s got– by the way I’ve spilled, powder all over the desk and all over myself.
Cary: You can also take it through your nose off the table.
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Brendan: Got a razor blade?
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Cary: That’s terrible.
Rick: This is a family show.
Cary: You took this to a whole new level or they picture of this.
Brendan: No I’m going to– we’re going mocha. This is definitely the darkest one.
Rick: They actually do have another one that’s a cacao.
Brendan: I like cacao.
Rick: Cacao and cordyceps I believe.
Brendan: I’m putting that in my shakes in the morning.
Rick: I’ve been using maca. I didn’t even know what maca was for.
Cary: Not mocha?
Rick: No, maca.
Brendan: Maca powder? Maca root?
Rick: Yes, maca root.
Cary: What is that?
Rick: Dude so-
Brendan: Super food.
Rick: Dude, yes, I thought it was just a super food but we looked it up yesterday. My wife and I were sitting at the park and I was like “Man I feel really good.” I had a smoothie with maca in it yesterday, and I felt just like energetic, you would say, and my wife looked it up and she said it was actually a use for libido effects.
Brendan: I don’t want to know what you did at the park.
[laughter]
Rick: I know.
Cary: What went on in the bushes. All right here we go. We’re going to try this.
Brendan: The full blend of all three.
Cary: It’s dark.
Rick: Here it goes.
Cary: It got really dark.
Brendan: It is dark.
Cary: Can’t even see through a dark anymore.
Rick: It’s dark and murky, sorry guys. Not bad though. Pound it.
Cary: No it just-
Rick: Ruins the flavor of the coffee. If you’re a coffee nerd you’re definitely not going to like this drink.
Brendan: It changes the flavor but you still taste coffee and there’s definitely some other stuff in there.
Cary: It doesn’t taste terrible.
Brendan: No it doesn’t taste terrible. I’d drink this.
Rick: But for– you want to have a productive day, it’s an awesome drink.
Cary: Yes, I could see this being much easier to just do in like a smoothie or something blend with some fruit. You wouldn’t even know it’s in there absolutely.
Brendan: So, you buy a pack that’s like a mixture of all these, you said.
Rick: Yes. They have the one that’s got the Lion’s Mane. It’s got all those ingredients in it and probably different proportions of them.
Cary: Plus instant coffee so you just do that with water and you’re good to go, or you could add more coffee if you want to.
Rick: Right. I do just a little bit– I still use a little bit of cold brew. The concentrate, just a little bit, because sometimes I drink too much coffee and I feel horrible.
Cary: You get jittery.
Rick: I get jittery. I get like a little anxious. This way I can cut back on the– but I like coffee. It helps me cut back on that a little bit. Still gives me great energy though.
Brendan: This website has some just pretty audacious claims for what Lion’s Mane does.
Rick: Really?
Brendan: Yes.
Rick: What does it say?
Brendan: It says it improves brain function, enhances nerve regeneration. May help in Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s, boosts the immune system, combats depression and anxiety, inhibits HIV activity.
Rick: Wow.
Brendan: Yes, there’s some crazy claims on here. There’s 24 things listed out. It looks like an upside-down sea anemone.
Cary: It does, hanging from the rocks.
Brendan: Check this thing out. Come around here or I can try to turn this.
Cary: Is this the-
Male Speaker 2: That is ugly.
Brendan: That’s what we’re having right now?
Rick: Here’s the thing too about, I think nootropics because you if you’re just completely treating your body like crap you’re not doing, you’re not exercising, you’re not eating healthy. You’re probably not going to feel any difference when you when you take a nootropic. But I feel like when you really are taking care of your body-
Brendan: You know what goes in.
Rick: You’re in touch with what’s going on with your body. You do like I feel a — I almost feel like it works like a pharmaceutical would and that’s a big claim because pharmaceuticals make a market difference in the way that you feel or whatever, depending on what you’re taking like an Advil compared to– I had to take Vicodin when I got my teeth pulled out. It’s a much different feeling than you would get from an Advil. I feel like with the Lion’s Mane as far as giving you a clear head, it does make a huge difference for me.
Brendan: Wow, I hope to have a productive day.
Rick: You will.
Cary: I was going to say– we’ll see what we get done today after this.
Brendan: I feel like I should hop online and start trading stocks.
[laughter]
Cary: Limitless.
Brendan: I’m going to come in tomorrow. You guys are going to be a broker.
[laughter]
Cary: It didn’t work.
Brendan: But yes, this is a cool idea and cool new concept for a coffee shops that are selling– we’ve got a lot of coffee shops who are looking to do the next thing. Work with a lot of health food companies and kombucha companies and-
Rick: Yes, nootropics are like the next big thing in the supplement market too. They’ve been around for a few years now, but there’s a couple of companies that are really pushing them now.
Brendan: Starting to catch on.
Rick: And they’re really catching on. Yes, there’s a company out there. They sell a nootropic and that’s like their flagship. It’s like their flagship product is this product called “Alpha Brain” and that’s how they made it.
Cary: Alpha Brain?
Rick: Alpha brain yes. I’ve used alpha brain and I believe that alpha brain has lion’s mane in it but it doesn’t-
Cary: It’s a blend of different.
[crosstalk]
Rick: Yes, it’s a blend of different nootropics and it probably has lion’s mane in it, but it does not work like this stuff does to me anyways.
Brendan: You actually noticed it when you take it you markedly-
Rick: Yes. Especially after a couple of days of taking it.
Cary: I was going to say is it’s not instant.
Rick: Sometimes, it’s got to build up in your system, and I don’t take it every day, I take three or four days of a week depending on what I’m doing. I only take it when I have to go to work or when I have to do something like this where I have to focus-
Brendan: Focus, be sharp.
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We should have had some of this on our last podcast.
Cary: We should.
Brendan: That was really lackluster
[laughter]
Cary: We each had four hours of sleep got here at 4:00 AM.
Brendan: Unloaded the container we were just beat.
Rick: How was the day you unloaded the container.
Cary: No they didn’t show up.
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Rick: It was also a 100 and something degrees out.
Brendan: Yes, it was terrible.
Cary: I think yes, I was driving in at about 5:00 AM and it was 88 degrees that day. At 5:00 AM.
Rick: That will make you also slower, I was noticing yesterday it’s a little bit hotter than normal, in our place it gets pretty hot because we are upstairs and man everything slows down.
Brendan: You just get sluggish, yes.
Rick: Everything slows down.
Brendan: Definitely, I’m going have to try to pay attention to this, I was just telling Jenny the other day that, she’ll take a new supplement and she’ll either notice it or not, but she’s pretty in tune with everything. I don’t feel that way with a lot of stuff that I eat or put into my body, I don’t notice-
Rick: What was she taking?
Brendan: I don’t know, we were just talking just genetically, I just brought up I take xyz supplement and I don’t really notice what they claim it will do.
Rick: Any bad effects.
Brendan: It could have just been the supplement that I had taken that time.
Rick: I’d say that’s most of the time I take supplements, most of the time you want to feel something, you want to get some benefit from it, but you don’t.
Cary: You want reassurance that you’re spending this money on something that’s supposed to be healthy, you should feel better, you should notice it but when you don’t it’s just like is it worth it.
Rick: Yes, there’s a record that came out to about vitamins a couple of years back that said vitamins do you no good, but the study seemed to be a little bit biased and they were testing on these men who were at the end of their lives and of course-
Brendan: Yes you can always find a study and-
[laughter]
Rick: But I would say for the most part there’s very few things that really do help as far as for performance supplements, coffee is one of the best. Coffee is one of the best supplements for people who run marathons or do long distance running, even just working out. I love to have a cup of coffee before I do a work out because it gets you fired up.
Brendan: Yes, doesn’t it expand your capillaries, oxygen flows more freely to all you limbs?
Rick: Yes, and it’s safe to, it’s a safe supplement to use. A lot of supplement you go into GNC there going to be of the shelf in a couple of months because a company– Didn’t you have a friend that went in there to that tested those supplements?
Cary: We did, yes.
Rick: Companies will go in and they’ll test these supplements and they’ll find out they have steroids in them. There’s a lot of fighters now to that are getting banned claiming that they took tainted supplements that have steroids or some kind of estrogen blockers in them.
Brendan: What was that one? It was deer antler or something they were grinding up and it was giving people–
Rick: Like lion’s mane?
Brendan: Yes, I guess.
[laughter]
But it was– I think it’s deer antler I don’t know I think you should Google that one, but I think that was like a steroid and also act like a super energy enhancer.
Rick: Well, there’s been a lot, there’s a lot so every– This is what happens every few months you’ll see– I see these kids at the gym they’re talking I just took LeBron’s supercharge and I feel like I’m going to have a heart attack, but look how much I can lift. They probably might almost have a heart attack because it had ephedrine or something that was not supposed to be in it. These companies they have to pull these things of the shelf and then they reformulate them and then no one–
Brendan: They find something else.
Rick: No one buys them anymore and then a new supplement comes out.
Brendan: Yes, they just come out under a new name.
Rick: Yes, but I think, I can’t be sure that this is safe to take.
[laughter]
Cary: Because it does make a– For me it makes such a difference.
Brendan: It’s organic at least [unintelligible 00:25:33] organic.
[laughter]
Rick: There are things that people have been– I think lion’s mane people have been using it for hundreds of years and some stuff it just works good, fish oil works great, but there are some that just don’t.
Brendan: Yes, I think what you were talking about earlier says deer antler velvet.
Rick: Yes, I’ve heard of that.
Brendan: It’s the velvet that covers the growing bone in cartilage that develop into deer antlers. Apparently used as a medicine for a wide range of health problems, boost strength and endurance, improve the immune system, counteracts stress, promote rapid recovery of illness. I need go get some of this to.
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Rick: I feel like they all say that.
Cary: I know they all say the same thing.
Brendan: Yes, it’s all the same.
Rick: Some coconut oil.
Brendan: Can’t protect against cancer.
Cary: You can brush your teeth with coconut oil.
Brendan: Let’s make sure that doesn’t pop up, while we’re still here talking [laughs].
Rick: Lion’s mane is making me a little bit trigger happy.
Brendan: It is, I don’t know I think it’s good I think it’d be great– Have you done this bullet proof coffee style, put a little butter coffee in there and just blend it all together.
Rick: I haven’t yet but-
Brendan: Don’t see any reason why not.
Rick: I feel like that’s too much though.
Cary: Yes, once you get all the fats in there.
Rick: It might give you diarrhea or something.
Brendan: Too much stuff?
[laughter].
Cary: It’s richer though, it got almost has a creamy mouth feel but it made a little bit bitter, it’s not terrible tasting.
Brendan: No it’s not it’s-
Cary: Somebody could come up I’m sure– I just threw it together randomly, but I’m sure somebody could come up with a good tasting drink, like a brain drink.
Rick: Yes and considering how many packets we put in here, we’re just stirring with a fork there’s no sediment on the bottom it’s– It was really only about eight ounces a cup that we had.
Brendan: What does it say to add it to?
Rick: Eight ounces.
Brendan: I get it.
Rick: Per packet, we had three packets.
[laughter]
Brendan: Also I just wonder how much lion’s mane is in here versus the peppermint and the star mayonnaise, stevia like if you just got the raw stuff the cordyceps, the chaga and the lion’s mane and put that in just that amount. You probably wouldn’t even notice it at all or very minimal.
Rick: Yes, it probably depends to, the dosage probably depends with how big you are, how much you can tolerate stuff. You got to play around this stuff–
Brendan: To see when you start hallucinating.
Rick: Yes. [laughs].
Brendan: I feel after taking all these, this should have been the day that I went home and worked on the sink and done all that stuff.
[laughter]
Would have been more focused.
Rick: Do you feel any difference? How long has it been since you’ve downed that?
Brendan: We’ve been recording for 27 minutes, I’ve probably had it in the system 15 now, I’ve got what two ounces left-
Cary: We did just eat too.
Brendan: It might take a little longer it’s getting absorbed by the food.
Cary: But I feel like I have a little more energy but could have been that beer to.
[laughter]
Brendan: All these said don’t mix with beer.
Cary: Crap, now I just feel so bad right now.
[laughter]
Brendan: Dude you’re so swollen [laughs].
Rick: Did you bring an epipen?
Brendan: [laughs] What if you just started growing just a- ?
Rick: Lion’s mane.
Brendan: Just bush.
Rick: I wonder if that’s why they call it lion’s mane because it looks like a lion’s mane.
Brendan: Here he is.
[laughter]
Rick: Let’s just add bubble wrapped face.
Brendan: Yes, we’ve been looking at health insurance. This is how this guy did it. Cool, I think I might get some of this and-
Rick: Keep trying it.
Cary: Hopefully they’ll carry the blend, because the blend is much more cost effective, it’s a $1.79 for a packet of it.
Brendan: Is it liquid versus powder or its all powder?
Rick: It’s all powder, it’s the same packet, I saw the one he had and then it said USA mushroom coffee on it.
Cary: I think it said go limitless on it.
Brendan: It’d be nice if they made that actually without the instant coffee in it though, because if you want to put that in something else you don’t want put coffee in a smoothy drink [crosstalk] this is the way to go.
Rick: You could find– Now you could find all these ingredients separately and you don’t necessarily need all of them. I think honestly the lion’s mane is the main thing that makes the difference. The cordycep mushrooms I’ve used for a long time and they work great but lion’s mane definitely makes a huge difference for me.
Brendan: This was the more energy focused one but the cordyceps that stuff was more health based probably.
Rick: I think cordyceps now has– It’s for adaptogens, when I used it– You use it before a work out, we used it when we went up to altitude hoping that it would make a 10% difference of us adapting to the altitude that we’re at. Both my friend and I, it did we go up to altitude we thought, so we felt better but it could have been, that’s anecdotal evidence.
Cary: Right, right.
Brendan: Think there’s maybe possible facts there.
Rick: Probably.
Brendan: Thinking that.
Rick: Yes. Probably. I think there’s always a little bit of that in-
Brendan: Whatever you do, right?
Rick: Whatever you do, yes. You see my sister when she drinks– two sips of beer.
Brendan: All right, I know.
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She’s trashed.
Rick: Yes, she’s trashed.
Brendan: Just laughing and everything. Whether it’s an IPA or no duo’s.
Rick: Yes. Same reaction-
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Cary: Did you guys trick her on time?
Brendan: Yes.
Rick: She didn’t know the difference.
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Brendan: She’s lying on the floor.
Cary: Yes. Room’s spinning.
Brendan: How was our duo’s?
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Brendan: I’ve got this site pulled up, I’m just checking it out.
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Cary: Check a lot of products, yes.
Brendan: Is it the mushroom coffee mix that you get?
Cary: Yes, that’s the one.
Brendan: We got the Chaga Mushroom Elixir Mix.
Rick: It was just like a commercial for Four Sigmatic that sponsored you guys.
Brendan: I love to call and see if they’ll maybe send us some more of these. But the way this dissolve, I don’t see why you can just empty a bunch of these into a keg like we have.
Cary: Yes.
Brendan: Shake the keg up, get it all. I buy them.
Rick: If someone had that-
Brendan: Ready to go?
Rick: I would– every morning, I’d be there. The lady at Whole Foods, she makes fun of me when I buy them. She’s like, “You’re addicted.”
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Rick: I’m like, “A little bit, a little bit.” Shut up. I’m like, “Have you taken it? You’d be buying it every day too.”
Cary: Mushroom Hot Cocoa Mix.
Brendan: Let me tear it open right there on the belt.
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Brendan: Right in front of-
Cary: You don’t know what you’re talking about. Do you?
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Brendan: Yes, Mushroom Hot Cacao Mix. They got quite a few things, super food blends. What’s Reishi spores? Have you got that one?
Rick: I haven’t got that one.
Brendan: Spores.
Rick: It’s all good stuff though. It’s all mushroom stuff huh?
Brendan: Yes, it looks like, yes. Mushroom based.
Rick: They must have a farm or something that they-
Brendan: Yes, they must. I can say, I’m not a fan of mushrooms in any form. I don’t mind these stuff. Not bad at all.
Rick: Mushrooms are weird.
Cary: It is weird. They’re like a– what was that theory you were talking about, they’re from outer space?
Rick: Yes.
Cary: Something like-
Rick: Panspermia, panspermia. There’s a theory that mushrooms– because they’re unlike anything that we have on earth, they’re like a lifelong almost. There’s some theory out there that an asteroid hit earth at some point in time and it-
Cary: Was carrying some spores-
Rick: Carrying spores, yes. All these different spores of mushrooms and that’s where we get all these different mushrooms.
Brendan: Interesting.
Rick: Yes. Because there are so many different types of mushrooms and they all have different benefits. They can kill you. They can make you hallucinate. In this cases, they’re very helpful for your health.
Brendan: Right. Very interesting.
Rick: Yes.
Brendan: Yes, these three that we all looked up, they all looked totally different. One looks like a bark on a tree. The other look like the sea anemone. One looks like a caterpillar, a grows on a caterpillar.
Cary: Where? which one is the– let me see the third one?
Brendan: This one.
Cary: Yes.
Brendan: This is the– which one is this, the Chaga, just looks like a bark on a tree.
Cary: Yes. What about the caterpillar one, did you find that?
Brendan: Yes, this is it. This website says something’s different.
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Cary: Isn’t it?
Brendan: It says dead caterpillar fruit and body stroma mushroom grows native to China and is all around the Tibetan area. For years of spot, to be a living worm rather than a mushroom and was nickname to caterpillar fungus.
Cary: Yes, it looks like-
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Brendan: It’s actually-
Cary: This is cordyceps.
Brendan: Yes. Cordyceps is actually a fungus spore that kills insects such as caterpillars.
Cary: Oh, wow.
Brendan: It just looks like, yes, you see this picture? It just apparently looks like a caterpillar.
Rick: It’s not actually living on caterpillar’s backs? It’s killing– it’s a carnivorous mushroom?
Brendan: I think it can kill. I don’t think it just goes out when it needs bugs. It’s a fungal spore that kills insects.
Cary: You’re saying what I said earlier is [unintelligible 00:35:19]
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Rick: According to this website.
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I can’t believe any fake news, can’t believe anything other than that.
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Cary: Fake news.
Brendan: Cordyceps first became popular in the Western world when the coach of the record breaking Chinese female runners credited it with the team’s extraordinary success.
Rick: Wow. There’s a lot of anecdotal evidence out there. To be helpful. Have you– we should if you want to do, we should Google-
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Brendan: Got something?
Rick: Cordyceps mushrooms debunked.
Brendan: It’s good. Cordyceps mushroom fakes news. This podcast episode will show up in a row.
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Cary: If you just search fakes news?
Brendan: Hopefully. Did you finish your drink here?
Cary: About to take it down.
Brendan: Here you go. Debunked, don’t buy that bottle of caterpillar Cordyceps Mushroom Supplement.
Rick: Okay good. I’m glad. Look at those things, that’s creepy looking.
Brendan: Yes they are-
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Cary: Growing inside and so I get tapeworm.
Brendan: I’m not seeing anything.
Rick: Nothing bad?
Brendan: No. Yes, too much reading here for on air.
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Too much dead time [unintelligible 00:36:53]. I read that whole article. Thanks to lion’s mane.
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Rick: Could you just paraphrase it for us.
Brendan: Yes, I just downloaded the whole article into my head.
Cary: You just learn how to speed read-
Rick: Taking the Lion’s mane. Okay well-
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Rick: Okay, are we done, guys?
Brendan: I think that’s it. Yes, maybe you guys out there have tried some mushroom supplements. If you have, let us know. I think that’s a good point to end.
Cary: Thanks for coming out Rick.
Rick: Yes. Thanks. Thanks for having me.
Brendan: Absolutely.
Rick: Thanks for trying me.
Brendan: It was good.
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Rick: I need some confirmation.
Recording: If you’re looking to learn more about cold brew or draught coffee, make sure you check out Keg Outlet’s Ultimate Guide to Cold Brew Coffee and Serving Coffee on Draughts. But hey, don’t just take my word for it. Here’s Daniel Browning from the Browning Beverage Company in Marfa, Texas.
Daniel Browning: I got on the internet and started looking around and I found Keg Outlet’s Ultimate Guide to Cold Brew Coffee and read it a couple more times than I’ve read anything in my life. That was pretty much all the research I needed.
Recording: If you’re looking to start your journey with cold brew or Draughts coffee, check out the Ultimate Guide to Cold Brew Coffee and Serving Coffee on Draughts. A free 34-page eBook offered at kegoutlet.com. You can get there through the Drips and Draughts website by going to dripsanddraughts.com/ultimateguide.
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Brendan: All right. Thanks for listening today and thanks to Rick and Cary for being with this video with us. A big thanks to Rick for opening our eyes to this new what might become a health fad. I don’t know if this is something that you’ll start seeing in Crossbites or those cold brew companies remarketing the Crossbites in the active community. But these mushroom supplements, these powders that we mix into the cold brew, they change the taste of the cold brew a little bit but it was still very drinkable. I think if any of these claims for the benefits of these supplements can be substantiated, then I think this is something that, we’ll start seeing a lot more of.
If you haven’t try these things, make sure you check out our show notes, dripsanddraughts.com/76. We’ll make sure we put links to those in the show notes. Our last little bit of business before we end the show today, if you’ve been listening for a while, hop on over to iTunes, leave us a quick rating review. We’d appreciate it and it’ll help the show out.
All right, that is going to do it for today. Another thanks to Cary and Rick for being in studio. I’m Brendan Hanson, I’ll see you again next Friday on another episode of the Drips and Draughts Podcast.
